Saturday, January 26, 2013

Mleccha, Barbarians, Lalo & the Setting Sun World

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"Mleccha (from Vedic Sanskrit म्लेच्छ mleccha, meaning "non-Vedic", "barbarian"), (Tib. lalo).....also spelt as Mlechchha, referred to people of foreign extraction in ancient India. Mleccha was used by the ancient Indians as much as the ancient Greeks used barbaros, originally to indicate the uncouth and incomprehensible speech of foreigners and then extended to their unfamiliar behavior. Mlecchas were found in northwestern India.".....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mleccha

"Although the “gZi-brjid” specifically identifies Ölmoling and Shambhala, neither in the “gZi-brjid” nor the “gZer-mig” is there any mention of Armaggedon or the climactic battle between the forces of the Mlechas from the West and the forces of Shambhala led by the Kulika Rudrachakrin, as is found in the Buddhist recension of the “Kalachakra Tantra”. ....http://bonchildren.tonkoblako-9.net/en/jewel2/03.tan

In the Mahabharata the root Sanskrit word barbar meant stammering, wretch, foreigner, sinful people, low and barbarous.....The term 'Menchha' was also used by the medieval Marathi saint Samarth Ramdas. Buddhist scriptures use the terms 'Milakkha' or 'Milakkhuka' to refer to Mlecchas.....In ancient India, this term was also applied by the ancient Indian kingdoms to foreigners. The word Mleccha was commonly used for 'another class of untouchable' or 'outer barbarians of whatever race or colour'. The Indians referred to all alien cultures that were less civilized in ancient times as 'Mlechcha' or Barbarians. The Mlechchas were people who were barbaric. Among the tribes termed Mlechcha were Sakas, Huns, Yavanas, Kambojas, Pahlavas, Bahlikas and Rishikas. The Amara-kosa described the Kiratas and Pulindas as the Mleccha-jatis. Indo-Greeks, Scythians, and Kushanas, were also mlecchas.....

"According to Romila Thapar (1975), the cuneiform meluhha and Pkt. milakkha (corresponding to Skt. mleccha ) are suggestive of a Dravidian (Dr.) original mel-u-kku ‘western’, and that the sound –kk- could have become –hh- in the cuneiform texts. She has also pointed out that Dr. mel-u-kku corresponds closely in meaning to Skt. aparanta, lit., ‘extremity, west ’, occurring as the name of the western sea-board of India, specifically southern Gujarat and northern Konkan."....http://www.harappa.com/arrow/meluhha_and_agastya_2009.pdf

"Some explanations of the name "mleccha," suggest that the word was derived from the Indo-Aryan perception of the speech of the indigenous peoples. Namely, "mlech" was a word that meant "to speak indistinctly." As such, some suggest that the Indo-Aryans used an onomatopoetic sound to imitate the harshness of alien tongue and to indicate incomprehension, thus coming up with "mleccha".....The notion of being Aryan suggested a knowledge of Sanskrit in order to effectively perform ritual hymns; thus suggesting the importance of language......http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mleccha

"Further, there is evidence that Indians of the Vedic period actually had contact with people outside of the subcontinent, namely the Persians. The Persians, who ruled over the Indus river valley during this time (522-486 BC) were not designated as mleccha, perhaps because they did not interfere with the brahmanical way of life...."....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mleccha

In Trungpa's presentation, spiritual materialism can fall into three categories — what he calls the three "Lords of Materialism" (Tibetan: lalo literally "barbarian") — in which a form of materialism is mistaken to bring long term happiness but instead only brings short term entertainment, followed by longer term suffering.....

".... the setting-sun world. In that world, there is no perpetual vision, no forward vision, and your vision is purely connected with death and with things ending. Everything is getting dark. Dark pitch blackness is about to come along, and we can't even see each other in this pitch darkness without sunshine. The setting sun is the notion of eternal depression. "....http://www.shambhala.org/teachers/vctr/ges.html

Balkh was in Khorasan....... The name "Khorasan" is derived from Middle Persian khor (meaning "sun") and asan (or ayan literally meaning "to come" or "coming" or "about to come"), hence meaning "land where the sun rises".

"Thee, great lama, who lives in this paradise land and who is constantly in prayer, shall adopt the title of Rigden Djapo and shall defeat the armies of lalo. Thy army shall include people of many nations. Thee shall have 40,000 large wild elephants, four millions of mad elephants, many warriors, and Thee shall pierce the heart of the king of lalo... Thy people shall tame the lalo's protectors, and the lalo's influence shall be totally gone. And then the time shall come when the true faith spreads all over.” (Red Shambhala, pg. 5)

"The "lalo" being referred to in these prophecies are described in Tibetan Buddhist texts as a group of "barbarians" that Rudra Chakrin will destroy, along with their "false doctrines". "Lalo" is a Tibetan equivalent of the Sanskrit term "mleccha", and is used to refer to all people of non-Dharmic faiths. It is used, more specifically, in the Kalachakra Tantra to refer to the followers of "Adam, Noah, Abraham, and five others – Moses, Jesus, the White-Clad One, Muhammad, and Mahdi [...]" (Verse I.154, The Abridged Kalachakra Tantra). They are said to have been the propagators of the false dharma (path, religion) of the mlecchas. The message they brought is referred to as "tamas" (literally "darkness", but it is used more specifically in Buddhism to refer to teachings which are utter falsehood).....http://wavetheblack.blogspot.com/2012/02/rudra-chakrin-king-of-world-tantric.html

"Setting Sun" people have no understanding of, interest in, or appreciation of the rich diversity and colorful displays of cultures, religions, languages, arts, poetry or magic of the phenomenal world. They are more interesting in conquering the earth than in touching the earth."

"There is no mention in any of the original Sanskrit and Vedic texts about the two opposing races called Aryan and Dravidian. The word Arya was used to designate a person as 'noble'. A wife will call her husband, 'O Arya' or 'O Arya-putra' meaning 'O my noble one' or 'O son of your noble father'. It was in this context that the word Arya was used in ancient Indian literature including Mahabharata. This appellation was given even if the husband belonged to the Rakshasa tribe. The word 'Dravida' was used to denote a tribe of people. In Mahabharata it was used to denote a tribe living some where in modern-day southern Andhara Pradesh. This tribe themselves used the appellation 'Arya' to denote nobility of a person. The appellation 'Arya' has some remote similarity with the appellation 'Ahura' (which cognates with the Vedic 'Asura') of Zend Avesta which also denote nobility of a person. In some occasions, the term Dravida is used as a collective term to denote the southern tribes of Chola, Pandya and Kerala, much like the noun Bahlika was used as a collective term to denote the western tribes like the Madra, Bahlika, Kekaya, Gandhara and Kamboja or the term Mlechcha was used to denote all the sea-trading tribes established on the sea shores of what is now Gujarat, Karachi, Bengal and Bangladesh. Even then, there was no instances where the Dravida tribe was mentioned as being opposed by an 'Aryan' tribe from the north. Usually the Dravida tribes were found to be allies of the northern tribes, for example the Keralas, the Pandyas and the Cholas were mentioned as allies of the Pandavas in their battle against the Kauravas.".....http://ancientvoice.wikidot.com/the-myth-of-aryan-dravidian-divide

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John Hopkins.....Northern New Mexico….January 2013

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